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rambling thoughts about the economy of an enclave #2

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seb commented 2025-06-12 08:28:26 -06:00
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Everything is WIP, nothing is ever done, but here it is.

Everything is WIP, nothing is ever done, but here it is.
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sigil-03 reviewed 2025-06-17 22:57:21 -06:00
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* Free as in freedom
* Be well positioned, socially and economically, for coming adversities
and opportunities (climate change, political upheaval, AI, nanotech,
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 22:57:21 -06:00
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nanotech

those molecularly-perfect 3d printers ;)

>nanotech those molecularly-perfect 3d printers ;)
seb commented 2025-06-19 17:00:53 -06:00
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From Engines of Creation:

Because assemblers will let us place atoms in almost any reasonable arrangement (as discussed in the Notes), they will let us build almost anything that the laws of nature allow to exist. In particular, they will let us build almost anything we can design - including more assemblers. The consequences of this will be profound, because our crude tools have let us explore only a small part of the range of possibilities that natural law permits. Assemblers will open a world of new technologies.

Advances in the technologies of medicine, space, computation, and production - and warfare - all depend on our ability to arrange atoms. With assemblers, we will be able to remake our world or destroy it.

From [Engines of Creation](https://web.mit.edu/cortiz/www/3.052/3.052CourseReader/3_EnginesofCreation.pdf): > Because assemblers will let us place atoms in almost any reasonable arrangement (as discussed in the Notes), they will let us build almost anything that the laws of nature allow to exist. In particular, they will let us build almost anything we can design - including more assemblers. The consequences of this will be profound, because our crude tools have let us explore only a small part of the range of possibilities that natural law permits. Assemblers will open a world of new technologies. > > Advances in the technologies of medicine, space, computation, and production - and warfare - all depend on our ability to arrange atoms. With assemblers, we will be able to remake our world or destroy it.
sigil-03 reviewed 2025-06-17 23:39:50 -06:00
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this is an awesome start - thank you for getting this all typed up / edited.

this is an awesome start - thank you for getting this all typed up / edited.
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superstructure
* Do without
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 23:06:45 -06:00
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one extra thing i think about sometimes here along with "do without" is the idea of like... "do with slowly"

for example, if i need vitamin X + external service Y to produce vitamin Z, and the cost to procure the tooling + raw materials to produce vitamin Z is approximately the same (or even a little greater) than the cost of an import then it usually feels worth it to procure the tooling + raw materials instead and learn a new skill + add to the enclave tool library

one extra thing i think about sometimes here along with "do without" is the idea of like... "do with slowly" for example, if i need vitamin X + external service Y to produce vitamin Z, and the cost to procure the tooling + raw materials to produce vitamin Z is approximately the same (or even a little greater) than the cost of an import then it usually feels worth it to procure the tooling + raw materials instead and learn a new skill + add to the enclave tool library
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 23:07:56 -06:00
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obviously it's a judgement call - like if it's just a one-time one-off thing that you will absolutely never need another one of again, then it is maybe not worth it, or if it's not aligned with your value vector, etc.

obviously it's a judgement call - like if it's just a one-time one-off thing that you will absolutely never need another one of again, then it is maybe not worth it, or if it's not aligned with your value vector, etc.
seb commented 2025-06-20 12:31:29 -06:00
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Tried to address this in a new commit to this branch.

Tried to address this in a new commit to this branch.
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* Do without
# Bootstrap
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 23:34:50 -06:00
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i think there are two things that i'd like to add to the bootstrap section

  1. bootstrapping also means bootstrapping people. adding people is a really easy way to diversify talent / resources / contributions

  2. starting small / local - starting by supporting the immediate local communities is a great way to organically build the roots to survive in your native ecosystem. it's like how planting native flowers ends up needing less water + care.
    a. for example, you may help a local farmer and now, although they are not part of your enclave or this project, they may offer alternate ways to obtain vitamins (perhaps through trade rather than through capital)

    building community like this also helps feed into point 1.

i think there are two things that i'd like to add to the bootstrap section 1. bootstrapping also means bootstrapping people. adding people is a really easy way to diversify talent / resources / contributions 2. starting small / local - starting by supporting the immediate local communities is a great way to organically build the roots to survive in your native ecosystem. it's like how planting native flowers ends up needing less water + care. a. for example, you may help a local farmer and now, although they are not part of your enclave or this project, they may offer alternate ways to obtain vitamins (perhaps through trade rather than through capital) building community like this also helps feed into point 1.
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* Make do with the space/infrastructure/tools I have available right now.
This includes my house & garage, and the hackspace.
* Bootstrap while making money at a dayjob? I sure don't want to burn
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 23:24:48 -06:00
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i think this is the answer.

you have to get enough energy into the system to wedge the crack open enough to fit through. that also means being very directed with that energy.

you later mention the work needing to both make money and offset living expenses, which is perfect. the capital is the energy to force the crack open from this side, and the living expense offset lets you squeeze through a smaller opening.

i think this is the answer. you have to get enough energy into the system to wedge the crack open enough to fit through. that also means being very directed with that energy. you later mention the work needing to both make money and offset living expenses, which is perfect. the capital is the energy to force the crack open from this side, and the living expense offset lets you squeeze through a smaller opening.
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* Working on stuff that makes money but doesn't further the mission.
* Working on stuff that furthers the mission but isn't economically
sigil-03 commented 2025-06-17 23:36:23 -06:00
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we should at some point draft a value vector for this

we should at some point draft a value vector for this
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